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05615 Misc. Trivial N/A Jun 26, 2014, 17:04 Jun 28, 2014, 10:50
Tester Augusto View Status Public Platform MAME (Official Binary)
Assigned To Resolution Open OS Windows Vista/7/8 (64-bit)
Status [?] Acknowledged Driver
Version 0.153 Fixed in Version Build 64-bit
Fixed in Git Commit Github Pull Request #
Summary 05615: kurikint kurikintu: Bosses messages in english language
Description This post is just to share information. Not being an MAME bug.
Before of boss fight is shown an text in japanese.
I had played Kuri Kinton in arcades and the bosses had japanese language.
MAME current version show boss message in japanese.
I had played Kurin Kinton in Raine in year 2002. I remember perfectly that had an option to choice game region. I had choiced Taito America.
Playing normally the bosses messages was in english language. For me was an arcade world or usa version.
I tried to contact Raine developer in Raine Forums to have any information to post.

http://rainemu.swishparty.co.uk/msgboard/yabbse/index.php?topic=1908.0
He say

Ah ok !
Well it was probably because there was a region switch for the 3 sets in the old versions.
I removed it for kurikina and kurikinj since it seems to be the only difference between these 2 sets.
And I just noticed that the support for this region switch in kurikint is currently broken, because the rom bank switch code is ancient !
EDIT : it's fixed, the region byte was very special for this rom, in data bank 0xf. I re-added the region byte support to kurikinj and kurikina.

The links below say an DIP Switch CONVERSION MODE = DOMESTIC OR FOREIGN
http://www.arcade-museum.com/dipswitch-settings/8362.html
https://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/spies.cgi?action=url&type=dip&page=KuriKinton.txt

Perhaps Kuri Kinton in arcade had option to play with english language.
Thanks =)
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No.10814
Tafoid
Administrator
Jun 27, 2014, 00:31
A Dev with knowledge of the driver would be useful in implementing this (if it is something the board was meant to do)
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No.10815
Mamesick
Senior Tester
Jun 27, 2014, 05:57
The code is already in the driver:
static INPUT_PORTS_START( kurikint )
	PORT_START("DSWA")
	TAITO_MACHINE_COCKTAIL_LOC(SW1)
	TAITO_COINAGE_WORLD_LOC(SW1)

	PORT_START("DSWB")
	TAITO_DIFFICULTY_LOC(SW2)
	PORT_DIPUNUSED_DIPLOC( 0x04, 0x04, "SW2:3" )        /* Listed as Unused */
	PORT_DIPUNUSED_DIPLOC( 0x08, 0x08, "SW2:4" )        /* Listed as Unused */
	PORT_DIPUNUSED_DIPLOC( 0x10, 0x10, "SW2:5" )        /* Listed as Unused */
	PORT_DIPUNUSED_DIPLOC( 0x20, 0x20, "SW2:6" )        /* Listed as Unused */
	PORT_DIPNAME( 0x40, 0x40, "Bosses' messages" )      PORT_DIPLOCATION("SW2:7")
	PORT_DIPSETTING(    0x00, DEF_STR( Off ) )
	PORT_DIPSETTING(    0x40, DEF_STR( On ) )
	PORT_DIPNAME( 0x80, 0x80, DEF_STR( Allow_Continue ) )   PORT_DIPLOCATION("SW2:8")
	PORT_DIPSETTING(    0x80, "5 Times" )
	PORT_DIPSETTING(    0x00, DEF_STR( On ) )

someone should check if disabling "Bosses Messages" which is default ON and displays Japanese text, make English text appears....
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No.10816
Augusto
Tester
Jun 27, 2014, 13:04
edited on: Jun 27, 2014, 13:04
Messages in english not is related with the DIP Switch Bosses Messages. Is related with Arcade ROM Region.
The problem is if USA and World version has option to display english boss message.
Old Raine versions had option for play Kuri Kinton with region Taito America and was removed by developer because the code is broken, but him say
"it's fixed, the region byte was very special for this rom, in data bank 0xf. I re-added the region byte support to kurikinj and kurikina."
Now I wait a new Raine version to post screenshots here.
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No.10817
Mamesick
Senior Tester
Jun 27, 2014, 13:56
In your links, the DIPSETTINGS are these:
DIP B
-------------------------------------------------------------
DESCRIPTION                   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
-------------------------------------------------------------
GAME DIFFICULTY   RANK B     OFF OFF
(EASY A -         RANK A     ON  OFF
DIFFICULT D)      RANK C     OFF ON
                  RANK D     ON  ON
-------------------------------------------------------------
CONVERSION        DOMESTIC                           OFF
MODE              FOREIGN                            ON
-------------------------------------------------------------
CONTINUE          TIMED                                  OFF
PLAYS             WITH                                   ON
-------------------------------------------------------------
Well, In MAME the "Conversion Mode" DIP is labeled "Bosses Messages"...
PORT_DIPNAME( 0x40, 0x40, "Bosses' messages" )      PORT_DIPLOCATION("SW2:7")
	PORT_DIPSETTING(    0x00, DEF_STR( Off ) )
	PORT_DIPSETTING(    0x40, DEF_STR( On ) )
So *maybe* changing this DIP to OFF in MAME allows English Text. I don't know for sure. Though modify a bit in a ROM Region in MAME via software is what is generally called "an hack"....
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No.10818
Augusto
Tester
Jun 27, 2014, 15:56
ON = before of each boss fight show an message.
OFF = before of each boss fight the message not is shown.
Not is related with language.
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No.10819
Mamesick
Senior Tester
Jun 27, 2014, 18:09
Ok. So the "Conversion Mode" DIP doesn't seem to exist. Because its location in MAME is "Bosses Messages" and works as you said.
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No.10820
Haze
Senior Tester
Jun 28, 2014, 10:50
it sounds like Raine is using a hack to display the messages in English, it's possible they were never meant to be displayed.

It's also possible that our non-Japan sets aren't REAL non-Japan sets. Once the standard region bytes were known about many boards ended up with fake roms on.