05960: carnival: possible colour issue

ID	Category [?]	Severity [?]	Reproducibility	Date Submitted	Last Update
05960	Color/Palette	Minor	Always	Jun 8, 2015, 21:55	Jun 10, 2015, 20:44

Tester	zaxxon	View Status	Public	Platform	MAME (Official Binary)
Assigned To		Resolution	Invalid report	OS	Windows Vista/7 (32-bit)
Status [?]	Closed			Driver	sega/vicdual.cpp
Version	0.162	Fixed in Version		Build	Normal
		Fixed in Git Commit		Github Pull Request #

Summary	05960: carnival: possible colour issue
Description	hi all, i noticed in carnival (sega upright and cocktail versions), for the MAME version the 'SCORE 1' in the top left hand corner of the screen, is displayed using a yellow colour. but looking at various pics and videos of the original arcade cab/cocktail, it seems the colour for the 'SCORE 1' is a kind of pink colour. here are some links (pics) showing the 'pink' 'SCORE 1' colour as seen on an original cab/cocktail: http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjQwWDQ4MA==/z/rZIAAOSw3xJVdDjA/$_57.JPG http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8slTGJKyyAY/maxresdefault.jpg video:
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Affected Sets / Systems	carnival

Attached Files	image.png (2,603 bytes) Jun 8, 2015, 21:55 Uploaded by zaxxon MAME Carnival snapshot

No.11729 Haze Senior Tester Jun 8, 2015, 22:06	All I see is a monitor that needs degaussing or something, it's still yellow as the base colour.
No.11731 NekoEd Senior Tester Jun 8, 2015, 23:01	I don't know, the evidence presented is a bit inconsistent.... I'm going to acknowledge this so we can hopefully look deeper and determine if it's not just monitor artifacts or perhaps something else.
No.11732 Tafoid Administrator Jun 8, 2015, 23:31 edited on: Jun 8, 2015, 23:32	I'm not convinced. From your reference video (at about 7:42) when Todd finishes his first round, player 2 is shown rotated to they can get a turn on the other side. On this screen, both scores there are plainly yellow. To me it would not make sense to have only one side different and have to think there is either a monitor issue (like mentioned before needing a good degauss) or there is some issue with magnetic shielding causing the discoloration along the edge. Changing caps in a monitor will not fix a degaussing problem. Flyer pictures I've seen also show a solid yellow for many elements on the screen as shown in emulation.. The only color that I know of that might be in dispute is the greenish/blue color is said to be possibly having more blue color. There is a note in the driver already referring to a possibly missing an extra pull up resistor which might change that color in a subtle way. Link to flyer: http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/?page=flyer&db=videodb&id=4948&image=1 .
No.11734 zaxxon Tester Jun 8, 2015, 23:47 edited on: Jun 8, 2015, 23:49	ah, sorry it looks like in the first picture there is a degauss problem, because looking at the top-left score (numbers), they are coloured white instead of blue the second pic though, im not so sure, because the blue colours (around the top-left of the screen) near the pink text, look to be the same blue shade as the rest of the screen (if degauss issue I don't think they would remain blue) ? i noticed something in the youtube video.. if you watch from 7 mins 43 seconds. you see the pink text, but when the screen flips, the text is yellow for the other player so, perhaps something screen flipping related
No.11740 system11 Senior Tester Jun 10, 2015, 18:05	It's just screen discolouration and it's very obvious - note how the top row or so of red targets changes shade as it moves to the left. Then when the game flips for cocktail player 2, all the colours at the top are even.
No.11743 system11 Senior Tester Jun 10, 2015, 20:44	See comments - it's just a discoloured screen.