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08217 Sound Minor Always Feb 20, 2022, 00:37 Nov 22, 2022, 06:05
Tester Augusto View Status Public Platform SDLMAME
Assigned To Resolution Open OS Linux (64-bit)
Status [?] Acknowledged Driver
Version 0.239 Fixed in Version Build 64-bit
Fixed in Git Commit Github Pull Request #
Summary 08217: rthunder: Last boss music theme not is played
Description MAME emulation when player reach the last boss the music continue being the stage music.

In home versions when the player reach the last boss the music is changed to boss music.

NES version

watch in 26:46

PS1 Namco Museum Encore is a game compilation and Rolling Thunder was reprogrammed, but have same gameplay and sound.

watch in 22:40

MAME accessing service mode is possible play the last boss music theme (sound FM 8).
Is possible that MAME is not emulating the last boss music.
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Affected Sets / Systems rthunder
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png file icon 0000.png (11,068 bytes) Feb 20, 2022, 00:37 Uploaded by Augusto
Augusto
zip file icon v.zip (12,358 bytes) Feb 20, 2022, 20:11 Uploaded by StHiryu
Save State for final boss (rthunder)
7z file icon 1.7z (3,786,485 bytes) Feb 21, 2022, 00:58 Uploaded by Augusto
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No.19814
Tafoid
Administrator
Feb 20, 2022, 10:29
I know I cannot get to that level to test this, the internal level skip only brings me to the end of the first story (Area 5). Someone will need to make an .inp file or a proper save state just before the offending area (before boss) so that developers can check this to see.

It is unusual, though, the final boss music doesn't play. I'll agree with that.
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No.19816
StHiryu
Tester
Feb 20, 2022, 16:21
edited on: Feb 20, 2022, 20:12
Will check it. Maybe differences in game revisions?

Edit: Addes save state for rthunder
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No.19821
Augusto
Tester
Feb 21, 2022, 00:57
edited on: Feb 21, 2022, 01:00
Uploaded an 1.7z file inside 4 video capture named for each set.
last boss theme only is played in rev2.
Namco removing last boss theme in rev3 ? Probably not.

Other strange detail is oldest and rev1 remember an prototype pcb because lacks several details :
- few enemies on screen at same time.
- enemies are slow.
- the same stage music for all stages.
- alternate sound fx opening doors.
- no ending (see the video capture).

revision 2 and 3 look being release.
Dip switch setting select start area only work for rev3 and if not is emulation problem in others sets probably rev3 is the the newest version.

Probably has an problem in last boss music theme not playing in rev3.
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No.19823
StHiryu
Tester
Feb 21, 2022, 02:48
Maybe the rev 2 is the final release really.
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No.19843
Augusto
Tester
Feb 25, 2022, 08:04
Playing is how if rev 3 is the more recent version in MAME.
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No.19844
StHiryu
Tester
Feb 25, 2022, 18:27
Well I played the rev 2 two days ago and can't see any big difference but the final boss music.
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No.19845
Haze
Senior Tester
Feb 25, 2022, 21:31
it might just be a bug they introduced in rev 3....
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No.19846
Fungi66
Tester
Feb 25, 2022, 22:06
Final boss music doesn't play here
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No.19847
StHiryu
Tester
Feb 25, 2022, 22:58
Is that video from a PCB?
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No.19848
Augusto
Tester
Feb 26, 2022, 00:06
edited on: Feb 26, 2022, 04:18
is possible select start stage in both revision 2 and 3, but the stage select only is displayed in rev 3 and also the dip switch config invunerability in rev 3 the player character not show an animation player losing life.
I have posted an message for the video owner. Now wait for reply.

In youtube link above comparing with MAME screenshot the last boss not have the same color.
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No.20593
StHiryu
Tester
Oct 8, 2022, 01:20
Visited the youtube video from Fungi66 and the pcb owner replied in comments. He says it's a rev 3 pcb, so it seems to be a BTANB:

"DeLuSioNaL's Arcade"
It's Rev 3. And yes, I've repaired 2 so far using donor parts. There are a ton of Namco custom chips which can only be replaced by another PCB donor if the originals go bad.
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No.20852
Augusto
Tester
Nov 22, 2022, 06:05
Big chance being a BTANB.