04461: hardhead, kittenk, tiamc1.c: Coinlock disabled Coin x message

ID	Category [?]	Severity [?]	Reproducibility	Date Submitted	Last Update
04461	DIP/Input	Minor	Have not tried	Aug 21, 2011, 19:06	Aug 22, 2011, 21:46

Tester	M.A.S.H.	View Status	Public	Platform	MAME (Self-compiled)
Assigned To		Resolution	No change required	OS	Windows XP (32-bit)
Status [?]	Closed			Driver
Version	0.143u3	Fixed in Version		Build	Normal
		Fixed in Git Commit		Github Pull Request #

Summary	04461: hardhead, kittenk, tiamc1.c: Coinlock disabled Coin x message
Description	"Coinlock disabled Coin x." message in: - Hard Head since MAME 0.124u2 - all tiamc1.c games of since 0.124u2 - Kitten Kaboodle since 0.130u3. It's like Bug #01819, but not fixed!
Steps To Reproduce	Start game and press INSERT COIN.
Additional Information
Github Commit

Flags
Regression Version	0.124u2, 0.130u3
Affected Sets / Systems	hardhead, kittenk, tiamc1.c

Attached Files	kittenk.png (6,377 bytes) Aug 21, 2011, 19:45 Uploaded by M.A.S.H.

No.07706 AnimalBear Tester Aug 21, 2011, 22:30	Do not reply about this, because a lot of games have this. And they know why is disabled.
No.07707 Fujix Administrator Aug 21, 2011, 22:38	mm.. Isn't this behavior what it should work? When you insert a coin, and the coin lock is disabled, therefore the message pops up. Different from 01819. If you want to hide the message, you can use the coin_lockout option in mame.ini.
No.07708 AnimalBear Tester Aug 21, 2011, 22:41	Thanks Fujix.
No.07716 Tafoid Administrator Aug 22, 2011, 10:01	These are not bugs. The message is triggered by hardware. The function to display such lockout messages started in 0.124u2 (hardhead, tiamc1.c). They only display on boards that have the functionality and that have a proper memory mapped emulation. This is why kittenk (and other) nemesis.c games didn't have this warning until 0.130u2/0.130u3 timeframe which were due to memory map improvements. As Fujix mentioned, there is a method to shut off the popup is it annoys (-nocoin_lockout). The messages were put into play because of bogus claims of non-functioning inputs in the test/service modes where the PCB was purposely blocking them. Closing.
No.07717 Haze Senior Tester Aug 22, 2011, 18:28	in this case the message is a bit weird. It's meant to pop up when your coin is blocked due to coin lockout. in this case the games are still accepting credits but displaying the message anyway. I feel the message should be debug build only, but this IMHO is not the expected behaviour anyway.
No.07720 hap Developer Aug 22, 2011, 21:46	Probably coinlock is disabled right after inserting a credit while your finger is still on the [5] key. Anyway, I've put the coinlock msg under debug now (and -verbose)