03108: finalizr: White colour appear purple / sound incorrect

ID	Category [?]	Severity [?]	Reproducibility	Date Submitted	Last Update
03108	Color/Palette	Minor	Always	Apr 13, 2009, 08:59	Feb 1, 2022, 10:08

Tester	Stefan Lindberg	View Status	Public	Platform	MAME (Official Binary)
Assigned To		Resolution	Open	OS
Status [?]	Confirmed			Driver	konami/finalizr.cpp
Version	0.130u3	Fixed in Version		Build	Normal
		Fixed in Git Commit		Github Pull Request #

Summary	03108: finalizr: White colour appear purple / sound incorrect
Description	The colour white is displayed as purple in MAME, it should be white if judging from the PCB. see screenshot. Sound/music is out of tune.
Steps To Reproduce
Additional Information
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Flags	Verified with Original
Regression Version
Affected Sets / Systems	finalizr

Attached Files	finalizer_colour.png (107,877 bytes) Apr 13, 2009, 08:59
	finalizer_front.jpg (2,289,441 bytes) Jun 22, 2015, 18:05 Uploaded by system11
	finalizer_back.jpg (2,108,541 bytes) Jun 22, 2015, 18:05 Uploaded by system11

No.06034 hap Developer May 2, 2010, 19:42	Not only that, but the other colours look bad too, look at the larger picture in the other report: http://www.mametesters.org/view.php?id=3102 (ignore the red enemies). The sea is about 20% green 80% blue, as opposed to 100% blue in MAME, and the land border is more defined. Any resistor networks between the PROM/video chip and the connector on the PCB? -- I've hardly any knowledge on resnets myself though.
No.06047 hap Developer May 5, 2010, 18:49	Oh, and could a PCB owner measure the clock speeds? It might fix (or at least help) the completely off-tune music, current clocks: MDRV_CPU_ADD("maincpu", M6809,XTAL_18_432MHz/6) /* ??? / (3mhz) MDRV_CPU_ADD("audiocpu", I8039,XTAL_18_432MHz/2) / 9.216MHz clkin ?? */ MDRV_SOUND_ADD("snsnd", SN76489A, XTAL_18_432MHz/12) (1.5mhz)
No.11786 system11 Senior Tester Jun 22, 2015, 18:04	I measured the clocks, plugging these into MAME results in ... bad sounds. There must be something else going on. 76489 - 651ns - 18.432 / 12 6809 - 651ns - 18.432 / 12 8039 - 162ns - 18.432 / 3 Additionally yes there are colour output resistors, interesting that MAME has a tint though since it looks like each colour has an identical set of resistors. Picture in MAME overall is dim and lacking vibrancy compared to the PCB, these are definitely involved.
No.11787 Haze Senior Tester Jun 22, 2015, 19:02	have you verified the PROMs? in other cases where we've seen tints like this when the resistor levels are all the same it's ended up being due to a badly read prom with a floating bit.
No.11788 system11 Senior Tester Jun 22, 2015, 19:04	I'll see if I can get hold of a second PCB from somewhere, dead or alive, and desolder them - not really feeling like pulling them out of this one at the moment. Luckily it's a cheap game.
No.19727 M.A.S.H. Senior Tester Jan 26, 2022, 22:04 edited on: Jan 26, 2022, 22:04	Can "sound incorrect" removed from the title summary? --> 03108: finalizr: White colour appear purple / sound incorrect Added sound mcu internal rom (0.241): https://git.redump.net/mame/commit/src/mame/drivers/finalizr.cpp?id=8b91f962834983a877efcfe757b5cea863839390 Removed imperfect sound flag (0.241): https://git.redump.net/mame/commit/src/mame/drivers/finalizr.cpp?id=dcca7801b8b515148517d00966c58a74ca19b89a
No.19741 Fortuna Tester Jan 31, 2022, 20:57	the sound now is 80 to 90% fixed, only need fix the pitch for bgm only, maybe for the next update the sound is fixed to 100% Color maybe need more data and better screenshot (need more screens) PS: exist a set with the life bar down (this maybe is possible with old set or bootleg set)
No.19744 hap Developer Feb 1, 2022, 10:08	Music pitch sounds same as the PCB to me: