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03431 Gameplay Minor Always Sep 8, 2009, 17:15 Nov 21, 2018, 00:38
Tester hindered View Status Public Platform MAME (Official Binary)
Assigned To Resolution Bugs That Aren't Bugs OS
Status [?] Resolved Driver
Version 0.132 Fixed in Version Build
Summary 03431: nbajamte only: Sean Elliot on the Pistons replaced with Robert Horry from the Rockets
Description On the team select screen, Sean Elliot appears as expected. However, in actual game play, Robert Horry is the actual character selected. The player wears a Houston Rockets uniform and the announcer refers to the player as Horry.
Steps To Reproduce Select the Pistons. Select a team configuration with Sean Elliot. Begin Gameplay. Player is actually Robert Horry.
Additional Information I haven't tested these variables, but I play in tournament mode (no cheats / powerups), as player 1, with the initials POO, birthdate 1/1.
Regression Version
Affected Sets / Systems nbajamte only
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Senior Tester
Sep 8, 2009, 17:41
sounds more like a real game bug than an emulation bug.
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Sep 8, 2009, 19:16
This would be something we'd need pcb confirmation on. Setting as possible.
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Sep 10, 2009, 17:40
edited on: Sep 10, 2009, 17:41
I can't confirm this, but I remember playing this in an older version of MAME. Being a Pistons fan, I often play as Detroit, and I don't remember this ever happening until recently, although I possibly used a different birthday/initials.
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Nov 21, 2018, 00:19
edited on: Nov 21, 2018, 14:53
The tester did not notice that Elliot doesn't appear named in the select screen. It is Elliot's photograph, but his name in the select screen is Horry, and yes, once ingame the player is Horry, including the uniform of his team, the Houston Rockets.

Only set 4 is affected (03/23/94).
Set1, set2, set3 and the prototype of 1995 doesn't present this issue.
So, why does set 4 present this elliot/horry confussion ??? I have found out the reason:

The exchanged player, Horry, was about to play in the Detroit Pistons in early 1994.... In fact, he was nearly traded in '94 for Elliot....
This is also mentioned in Robert Horry wikipedia:
"In February 1994, he and Matt Bullard were traded to the Detroit Pistons for Sean Elliott, but Elliott failed a physical because of kidney problems, and the trade was rescinded. "
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Sean Elliot wikipedia also refers to it:
"After Elliott struggled with the Pistons, the Pistons attempted to trade him to the defending champion Houston Rockets in February 1994 in exchange for Robert Horry, Matt Bullard, and two second-round draft choices; however, the trade fell through when Elliott failed his physical..."
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After reading this I've checked the game and seen that Elliot is in the Houston Rockets!!
And it is glitched the same way the other player is: The photo in the select screen belongs to Horry, but the name is Elliot. Once ingame he is Elliot wearing the Detroit Pistons uniform.

The date of the affected set is very close to this attempt to trade both players. So it seems Midway was aware of it, tried to exchange both players and screw it up...

This is a BTANB with some history behind
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Nov 21, 2018, 00:35
Thanks for the solid confirmation and history
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Nov 21, 2018, 00:38
Confirmed here, looks like a bug or "mistake" ingame

(tested in 4 differents players)