06490: ddcrew ddcrewd: Player 1 coin does not work when common chute is set

ID	Category [?]	Severity [?]	Reproducibility	Date Submitted	Last Update
06490	DIP/Input	Minor	Always	Feb 1, 2017, 20:22	Feb 6, 2017, 12:12

Tester	haynor666	View Status	Public	Platform	MAME (Official Binary)
Assigned To		Resolution	No change required	OS	Windows Vista/7/8 (64-bit)
Status [?]	Closed			Driver	sega/segas18.cpp
Version	0.182	Fixed in Version		Build	64-bit
		Fixed in Git Commit		Github Pull Request #

Summary	06490: ddcrew ddcrewd: Player 1 coin does not work when common chute is set
Description	Coin in coin slot 1 cannot be inserted when chute is set to common (default). In invidual mode everything is fine.
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Affected Sets / Systems	ddcrew ddcrewd

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No.13578 Tafoid Administrator Feb 2, 2017, 05:18	This is most likely by design. Not all cabinet had hardware to handle 3 individual coin slots. Stands to reason that since these games did not come with dedicated cabinets the operators need to choose a mode which best fit their cabinet they were using for it. It makes sense that the COMMON coin mode chosen would only check 2 coin inputs (in this case, coin 2 and coin 3) and not coin 1 as you are reporting. INDIVIDUAL allows 3 coins, one for each player and functions as expected when chosen. If you check the input ports in test mode, they are indeed only polling for 2 coin inputs for COMMON, and 3 in INDIVIDUAL (and labeled as such when you trigger them). In my opinion, not a bug.
No.13595 Haze Senior Tester Feb 6, 2017, 12:12	it's more a case that MAME doesn't have support for swappable cabinet types / control panels when used with arcade games the same way the non-arcade side has swappable joysticks. there are some cases where this get handled with the conditional dipswtiches, but other cases where it can't be because the games store settings in backup RAM / EEPROM not using a dipswitch. In those cases MAME would have to provide a manual option for the user to select the control panel being used.

No.13578

Tafoid

Administrator

Feb 2, 2017, 05:18

This is most likely by design. Not all cabinet had hardware to handle 3 individual coin slots. Stands to reason that since these games did not come with dedicated cabinets the operators need to choose a mode which best fit their cabinet they were using for it.
It makes sense that the COMMON coin mode chosen would only check 2 coin inputs (in this case, coin 2 and coin 3) and not coin 1 as you are reporting. INDIVIDUAL allows 3 coins, one for each player and functions as expected when chosen.

If you check the input ports in test mode, they are indeed only polling for 2 coin inputs for COMMON, and 3 in INDIVIDUAL (and labeled as such when you trigger them).

In my opinion, not a bug.

No.13595

Haze

Senior Tester

Feb 6, 2017, 12:12

it's more a case that MAME doesn't have support for swappable cabinet types / control panels when used with arcade games the same way the non-arcade side has swappable joysticks.

there are some cases where this get handled with the conditional dipswtiches, but other cases where it can't be because the games store settings in backup RAM / EEPROM not using a dipswitch. In those cases MAME would have to provide a manual option for the user to select the control panel being used.