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|ID||Category [?]||Severity [?]||Reproducibility||Date Submitted||Last Update|
|07338||DIP/Input||Minor||Always||May 27, 2019, 02:18||Sep 4, 2019, 08:49|
|Tester||Cheshirenoir||View Status||Public||Platform||MAME (Official Binary)|
|Assigned To||Resolution||Open||OS||Windows 10 (64-bit)|
|Version||0.209||Fixed in Version||Build||64-bit|
|Summary||07338: crvision: Creativision has a 16 way joystick, not an 8 way joystick|
Documentation from the original manuals mentions that the Creativision has a 16 way joystick not an 8 way joystick. See page 9 of the user manual located at: http://www.madrigaldesign.it/creativemu/harditem.php?id=10
My memory form the system is that Planet Defender could make use of the additional diagonals.
|Steps To Reproduce||Running MAME with the -listxml option for crvision returns an 8 way joystick.|
|Additional Information||I suspect this has always been this way.|
|Affected Sets / Systems||crvision|
DickSmithWizzardManualPg89.pdf (137,932 bytes) May 27, 2019, 02:18 Uploaded by Cheshirenoir
Pages 8 & 9 of the manual for the Dick Smith Wizzard. (Australian branded version of the Creativision)
joytest.7z (4,111 bytes) May 28, 2019, 12:42 Uploaded by Tafoid
joystick tester for crvision
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May 28, 2019, 08:21
May 28, 2019, 12:41
edited on: May 28, 2019, 15:50
I made a program in basic to read and display values for joysticks 1 and 2 (attached .wav file loadable via MAME and I'd assume an actual Createavision machine.) The unfortunate part is that it only seems to recognize up/down/left/right and center and no combinations. It may be a BASIC limitation, or an issue with the way the joystick is hooked up to the machine in source - I have no idea. Even with "16_way", it showed no change in behavior.
If you or someone you know has a ready to go Createavision or clone and they can load my example file, I'd love to hear if it shows more then 1,3,5,7 or 0 for values for either joysticks. I can make the token change in source to have it say 16-way, but I'm unsure how to test it. I tried Planet Defender and it didn't really notice any difference between normal or 16_way designations.
To use the image, mount via command-line "-cass joytest.wav" or using the File Manager tool in UI. Then, when running BASIC cartridge, type "CLOAD" then activate PLAY on the emulated tape drive (TAB -> Tape Controls) and it should load. Type RUN to poll both joysticks. Press UP on both to exit or use CTRL-C to fall back to prompt.
May 29, 2019, 05:54
|I will see if I can locate someone with a physical Creativision who can assist with this.|
Jun 2, 2019, 11:39
|Finally found a CreatiVision user / developer who can confirm that it's a 16 way joystick as they have used it as such in their own software. They'll test the supplied joytest and get back to us. (Thanks Mobsie!)|
Sep 4, 2019, 08:49
|Unfortunately my contact has fallen off the grid. I'm still attempting to find someone with original hardware to test this.|