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ID Category [?] Severity [?] Reproducibility Date Submitted Last Update
08541 Crash/Freeze Critical (emulation) Sometimes Dec 31, 2022, 16:01 Oct 27, 2023, 16:00
Tester Dumple View Status Public Platform MAME (Official Binary)
Assigned To Haze Resolution Fixed OS Windows 10/11 (64-bit)
Status [?] Resolved Driver
Version 0.251 Fixed in Version 0.261 Build 64-bit
Fixed in Git Commit 5217259 Github Pull Request # #11650
Summary 08541: tshingen: Hard crash in stage 2 (or later)
Description The second fight (after the first bonus stage, on the horse) frequently crashes.
It seems like picking up fans and other items makes the crash happen faster or more reliably, but I'm not sure if that's true - I've had a crash without picking up a fan.
I haven't been able to trigger the bug on the romset [tshingena], just on [tshingen].
Steps To Reproduce - Finish the first battle
- Grab a fan during the bonus stage
- Play through the next level and a crash typically occurs
Additional Information This occurs in MAME 0.251 and MAME 0.249 (and WolfMAME 0.249)
Github Commit
Regression Version
Affected Sets / Systems tshingen
Attached Files
? file icon tshingen.inp (55,831 bytes) Dec 31, 2022, 16:01 Uploaded by Dumple
MAME 0.251 .inp file
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Senior Tester
Jan 2, 2023, 17:46
yeah, I've seen this before, although didn't know it was still happening.

I do wonder if that English set is a prototype, or a bad hack, unless it just has some extra hidden protection.

(failing that I guess it being a bad dump is also possible)
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Senior Tester
Oct 22, 2023, 15:55
edited on: Oct 23, 2023, 13:07
it's a delayed protection check, should be fixed for November release
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Oct 23, 2023, 22:26
Wow, nice! Did anyone document the gate array reverse engineering process? I'm super interested in this, as this game's prot. perplexed me for years!
best regards,
- dink
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Oct 24, 2023, 22:17
sorry for going offtopic above!

A few years back System11 verified the dump against his English tshingen pcb, and it matched 100%
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Oct 26, 2023, 16:39
I didn’t test this myself, but Haze says he fixed it.
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Senior Tester
Oct 27, 2023, 16:00
the reply/inp file posted here works fine with current builds, you can see the clear difference if you play it back (I imagine Bob Zed will do just that for the November release summary)