 No.23343
Kale Developer
24 days ago
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I'm not sure where -cheat hasn't this already covered in full. |
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 No.23351
Augusto Tester
22 days ago
edited on: 22 days ago
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Boss ... not exactly about if cheats had covered all it. We use these settings for debugging and not for gameplay. A high number of MAME users use these settings for gameplay being an wrong action to do. If you search the internet you'll see mame users posting encouraging others to use overclocking for gameplay thus doing a mess. Whenever possible I keep telling for that type of mame user not to use overclocking for gameplay because the use is only for debug. They ignore it. Moving "cpu overclocking", "sound device overclocking" and "refresh rate" for an new OSD menu "debug" being enabled in mame.ini avoid it and so used for mamedevs and good sense mametesters only for debugging. |
 No.23354
StHiryu Tester
22 days ago
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I use cpu overclocking for playing games like double dragon or metal slug 2 with no slowdowns, no testing or debugging here. Don't see the point for this report. Let the users configure the emulator the way they wish... |
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No.23355
Augusto Tester
22 days ago
edited on: 22 days ago
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About cpu overclocking only exceptions I know are ddragon and ddragon2. ddragon is almost impossible to play mainly in the last area of the last mission without overclock in main and secondary cpus. The slowdown is absurd to the point happen extreme input delay. However changing cpu overclock settings break the game code internal logic. In my knowledge mamedevs don't like seeing users changing cpu overclocking settings. That my topic not is about removing cpu overclocking settings, but moving to another OSD menu. Since begin these settings were added in MAME for debugging. Thus users will understand that these settings are for use by mamedevs and for debugging. You should use these settings to debug mametesters report bugs. |
 No.23364
hap Developer
20 days ago
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I do think the Sliders menu is bad UI design though. Volume sliders: should be in the audio mixer menu Screen sliders: should be in video options menu Overclock sliders: should be in cheat menu What we have now, compare it with a Windows application, open preferences, and instead of settings grouped by category, imagine this: tab 1: comboboxes tab 2: radiobuttons tab 3: checkboxes tab 4: can't forget the sliders of course |
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No.23370
Augusto Tester
18 days ago
edited on: 18 days ago
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I had created that topic for mamedevs to analyze about users abusing overclocking settings because we use OSD overclock settings for debug and not for gameplay. Anyone with the minimum knownledge about programming understand that overclock can break the program code internal logic. "cheats" not is an correct naming option for enabling cpu device overclocking and not make sense. "cheats" is about game code. At least enabling OSD overclocking using another name option and if possible in mame.ini avoid users doing mess and then posting false bug reports. Enabling using mame.ini with debug=1 is good example. hap reply above does sense. Have moments that user use BGFX crt HLSL shader and the menu is bigger and not are grouped in same type. |
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No.23373
hap Developer
18 days ago
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To be honest, I never used overclocking for debugging, like helping me with programming something in MAME, or trying to reproduce/find a bug. I'm not sure if it's of any use to homebrew developers either. Actual cheats are useful for debugging though. Sometimes if I've done a big change, I want to test the whole game. I just enable invincibility or infinite lives cheats. |