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08656 DIP/Input Major Always Jun 1, 2023, 16:50 Jun 8, 2023, 15:19
Tester danylopez123 View Status Public Platform MAME (Official Binary)
Assigned To cuavas Resolution Fixed OS Windows 10/11 (64-bit)
Status [?] Resolved Driver
Version 0.255 Fixed in Version 0.256 Build 64-bit
Fixed in Git Commit 1c475f8 Github Pull Request #
Summary 08656: botss, f15se: Joystick Up and/or Right is very sensitive.
Description Seeing that MAME finally fixed the audio in the micro3d games, i've decided to replay Battle of the Solar System and F-15 Strike Eagle.

However, there is 1 major problem: When moving the Joystick Up and/or Right, that's where it becomes very sensitive and it messes up the controls making the games unplayable.

Could it be related to the Analog Input center points?
Throttle works just fine.
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Affected Sets / Systems botss, f15se
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Jun 1, 2023, 17:34
edited on: Jun 1, 2023, 17:37
Using default mame settings with f15se, pushing left is kind of slow in the service menu diagnostic using the keyboard. Up and right is very touchy as a single key press moves the reticle a lot. Pressing down seems to feel different compared to the other 3, not as touchy as up/right, but moreso than pushing left. You notice it more when going up and down on the menu items.

The little black reticle also goes out of the box and "around the world" when holding up or right. I had always written this off as one of those things where the game isn't going to feel right without the real hardware. I can't see a way to calibrate the flight stick either? "Trigger and Shield Button Together to Recalibrate Throttle" but nothing for the stick.
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Jun 1, 2023, 19:18
I think the analog mapping need fixing, I don't know if they've always been this or it's a regression, I think a regression as I remember these sets being playable, and now they definitely aren't.

You can see in the service menu of botss especially that the analog range goes way out of the box it's expected to be in, and even ends up corrupting other graphics on the screen.

I don't think there's a way to calibrate the sticks, only the throttle (which you must calibrate in botss to avoid the div by zero error - probably worth adding a default nvram with that calibrated)
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Jun 1, 2023, 19:36
Why is the default position so close to one end of the range for X and Y? That alone is pretty suspect. The ranges don’t make any sense, either.
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Jun 1, 2023, 20:00
See if 1c475f8ad1537bb1a570da1cfdca3cd6ed1950ce behaves any better.
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Jun 8, 2023, 14:21
I almost forgot about my own report and seeing the comments.
Yesterday i've tried to compile MAME with the recent changes, the sound bug from another report might be still present but the controls have been fixed, you can mark this report as "Resolved" now.