08656: botss, f15se: Joystick Up and/or Right is very sensitive.

ID	Category [?]	Severity [?]	Reproducibility	Date Submitted	Last Update
08656	DIP/Input	Major	Always	Jun 1, 2023, 16:50	Jun 8, 2023, 15:19

Tester	danylopez123	View Status	Public	Platform	MAME (Official Binary)
Assigned To	cuavas	Resolution	Fixed	OS	Windows 10/11 (64-bit)
Status [?]	Resolved			Driver	misc/micro3d.cpp
Version	0.255	Fixed in Version	0.256	Build	64-bit
		Fixed in Git Commit	1c475f8	Github Pull Request #

Summary	08656: botss, f15se: Joystick Up and/or Right is very sensitive.
Description	Seeing that MAME finally fixed the audio in the micro3d games, i've decided to replay Battle of the Solar System and F-15 Strike Eagle. However, there is 1 major problem: When moving the Joystick Up and/or Right, that's where it becomes very sensitive and it messes up the controls making the games unplayable. Could it be related to the Analog Input center points? Throttle works just fine.
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Affected Sets / Systems	botss, f15se

Attached Files	micro3d.png (109,301 bytes) Jun 1, 2023, 16:50 Uploaded by danylopez123

No.21488 Balthier Tester Jun 1, 2023, 17:34 edited on: Jun 1, 2023, 17:37	Using default mame settings with f15se, pushing left is kind of slow in the service menu diagnostic using the keyboard. Up and right is very touchy as a single key press moves the reticle a lot. Pressing down seems to feel different compared to the other 3, not as touchy as up/right, but moreso than pushing left. You notice it more when going up and down on the menu items. The little black reticle also goes out of the box and "around the world" when holding up or right. I had always written this off as one of those things where the game isn't going to feel right without the real hardware. I can't see a way to calibrate the flight stick either? "Trigger and Shield Button Together to Recalibrate Throttle" but nothing for the stick.
No.21491 Haze Senior Tester Jun 1, 2023, 19:18	I think the analog mapping need fixing, I don't know if they've always been this or it's a regression, I think a regression as I remember these sets being playable, and now they definitely aren't. You can see in the service menu of botss especially that the analog range goes way out of the box it's expected to be in, and even ends up corrupting other graphics on the screen. I don't think there's a way to calibrate the sticks, only the throttle (which you must calibrate in botss to avoid the div by zero error - probably worth adding a default nvram with that calibrated)
No.21492 cuavas Administrator Jun 1, 2023, 19:36	Why is the default position so close to one end of the range for X and Y? That alone is pretty suspect. The ranges don’t make any sense, either.
No.21494 cuavas Administrator Jun 1, 2023, 20:00	See if 1c475f8ad1537bb1a570da1cfdca3cd6ed1950ce behaves any better.
No.21528 danylopez123 Tester Jun 8, 2023, 14:21	I almost forgot about my own report and seeing the comments. Yesterday i've tried to compile MAME with the recent changes, the sound bug from another report might be still present but the controls have been fixed, you can mark this report as "Resolved" now.