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ID Category [?] Severity [?] Reproducibility Date Submitted Last Update
09196 Color/Palette Minor Always 16 hours ago 2 hours ago
Tester JimCarlTay View Status Public Platform MAME (Official Binary)
Assigned To Resolution Duplicate OS Windows 10/11 (64-bit)
Status [?] Closed Driver
Version 0.277 Fixed in Version Build 64-bit
Fixed in Git Commit Github Pull Request #
Summary 09196: varth and clones: Background color in start screen, ranking screen, and region warning appear off compared to PCB footage
Description While comparing the background colors of these screens on MAME to PCB footage, the background happens to have a dark beige color on MAME compared to the black on the PCB video (link provided below).
Steps To Reproduce None needed outside of loading the game and comparing the colors between both MAME and the PCB footage.
Additional Information Janet's PCB recording (Japanese version / varthj):

MAME screenshots are sourced from the World version (varth).

I set 0.277 as the version for the report since this is the release build I currently have, as I have yet to update to 0.278. This also happens on my 0.278 release candidate build (build eb05584).

The screenshots included below are of the start and ranking screens.
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Affected Sets / Systems varth and clones
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png file icon Varth MAME start screen.png (8,108 bytes) 16 hours ago Uploaded by JimCarlTay
Start screen as seen on MAME
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png file icon Varth PCB start screen.png (241,881 bytes) 16 hours ago Uploaded by JimCarlTay
Start screen as seen on Janet's PCB footage
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png file icon Varth MAME ranking.png (7,650 bytes) 16 hours ago Uploaded by JimCarlTay
Ranking screen as seen on MAME
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png file icon Varth PCB ranking.png (309,037 bytes) 16 hours ago Uploaded by JimCarlTay
Ranking screen as seen on Janet's PCB footage
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png file icon varthpcb.png (177,109 bytes) 2 hours ago Uploaded by Haze
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duplicate of 01683Resolved  varth, varthj, varthu, varthr1: The grey background on Capcom logo screen is verified on real pcb. 
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No.23423
hap
Developer
16 hours ago
Dark grey splotches on some CPS1 games are verified to happen on real pcb.
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No.23424
JimCarlTay
Tester
15 hours ago
edited on: 15 hours ago
I understand with the Capcom logo, but the dark beige background on the other screens is the only thing that looks off in this case.

Maybe I should have also shown MiSTer FPGA footage to help prove my point, but I'm not sure if it's against the guidelines. You can find them on YouTube.
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No.23425
JimCarlTay
Tester
15 hours ago
edited on: 15 hours ago
For now, I've removed everything to do with the Capcom logo so it does not come off as a duplicate of an earlier report. It's now up to you to update the status as seen fit.
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No.23426
hap
Developer
4 hours ago
IMO it's the same thing =)
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No.23427
Haze
Senior Tester
2 hours ago
edited on: 2 hours ago
the grey/brown background has been confirmed on multiple PCBs as correct.

Janet's footage is much darker (lower gamma) so it's less visible. The monitor I'm at right now is actually bright enough that you can still see it, even in the shots you've provided though. I've uploaded a picture with the levels boosted, but it should make it obvious that the only difference is the output curve on the monitor.

CPS also outputs a slightly odd signal at times for the background colour, which causes some common monitors to misbehave and strip that amount from the rest of the image (whicfh is why a lot of real captures of 3 Wonders have glitched menus with entire channels missing)