02810: hanaroku,hanaawas: Input keys are inconsistent with other hanafuda games

ID	Category [?]	Severity [?]	Reproducibility	Date Submitted	Last Update
02810	DIP/Input	Feature	Always	Jan 9, 2009, 00:59	Jan 23, 2009, 01:36

Tester	nightsoil	View Status	Public	Platform	MAME (Official Binary)
Assigned To		Resolution	Fixed	OS	Windows XP/Vista 32-bit
Status [?]	Resolved			Driver
Version	0.129	Fixed in Version	0.129u2	Build	Normal
		Fixed in Git Commit		Github Pull Request #

Summary	02810: hanaroku, hanaawas: Input keys are inconsistent with other hanafuda games
Description	The input keys in these hanafuda games seem poorly chosen, and are inconsistent with those in other hanafuda games. Other hanafuda games use either A, B, C, ... or numeric keypad 1, 2, 3, ... for selecting a card. Not only the game inputs, but also the service keys seem poorly chosen.
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Affected Sets / Systems	hanaroku,hanaawas

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No.03538 Fujix Administrator Jan 9, 2009, 01:26	This issue is not a bug essentially, will be a feature request. I guess special key mapping for this game doesn't match MAME's common hanafuda input.
No.03545 Kale Developer Jan 9, 2009, 17:24 edited on: Jan 9, 2009, 17:26	Well,it's not mapped at all (uses regular button macros) so I'd guess that should be fixed,but I wonder: do we have a REAL standard inputs for hanafuda games? Some games uses mahjong inputs (A-B-C-D-...) some uses the numpad and my yumefuda driver uses Z-X-C-V-B-N...what is the best way to map them?
No.03572 nightsoil Tester Jan 13, 2009, 21:29 edited on: Jan 20, 2009, 17:59	For these two games, specifically, since the cards on the game screen are labeled with numbers rather than letters, I would recommend using the numeric keypad for them. (The numbers are displayed as Chinese characters rather than Arabic numerals, but the difference is immaterial.) I do not like how some service inputs in hanaroku, such as the reset button, are controlled using ordinary letter keys, particularly the letter D. If I out of habit press D for the fourth card, it does the wrong thing.
No.03615 etabeta Developer Jan 21, 2009, 10:29	but not all keyboards have a numeric pad (e.g. laptops), hence maybe the default keys should be on the main keyboard only. moreover, to remap them when necessary takes just a few minutes
No.03616 nightsoil Tester Jan 21, 2009, 19:59 edited on: Jan 21, 2009, 20:01	They are inconsistent from game to game. For hanafuda, "ctrl, alt, space, Z, X, C, ..." just seems irregular, illogical, and hard to use, especially if your keyboard has a Windows key in the way. I recommend "A, B, C, ..." or possibly "Q, W, E, ..." I prefer "A, B, C, ..." because some people have AZERTY keyboards, and also E for the card #3 would conflict with E for card #5 (brain conflict, not software conflict). Best would probably be "A or Num 1, B or Num 2, C or Num 3, ..."
No.03618 aaron Developer Jan 22, 2009, 10:38	by Sonikos
No.03626 nightsoil Tester Jan 23, 2009, 01:36	The inputs were only fixed for hanaroku, not for hanaawas.