04098: shdancer: Intro ends too soon.

ID	Category [?]	Severity [?]	Reproducibility	Date Submitted	Last Update
04098	Misc.	Minor	Always	Oct 26, 2010, 03:39	Nov 23, 2010, 18:50

Tester	wuemura	View Status	Public	Platform	MAME (Official Binary)
Assigned To		Resolution	Invalid report	OS	Windows Vista/7 (64-bit)
Status [?]	Closed			Driver	sega/segas18.cpp
Version	0.140	Fixed in Version		Build	64-bit
		Fixed in Git Commit		Github Pull Request #

Summary	04098: shdancer: Intro ends too soon.
Description	At the demonstration screen showing how to duck and do the "Ninja Dog Attack" the main character dies and the intro ends too soon.
Steps To Reproduce	Start any official mame build, load the rom and watch the intro.
Additional Information	This problem doesn't affect shdancer1, shdancerj and shdancbl.
Github Commit

Flags	Verified with Original
Regression Version
Affected Sets / Systems	shdancer

Attached Files	shdancer.png (19,204 bytes) Oct 26, 2010, 03:39
Attached Files	shdancer1.png (20,597 bytes) Oct 26, 2010, 03:40

No.06813 Fujix Administrator Oct 26, 2010, 06:15	It doesn't repro in shdancer for me. And shdancbl works as you describe.
No.06815 Tafoid Administrator Oct 26, 2010, 14:07	I'm almost positive this is not an emulation bug. The demonstration screen behavior, like many games, is based purely on the difficulty your game is set to. Many games' demonstration modes are affected by this switch, as the enemies are more aggressive and behave differently .. and setting to "HARDEST" in SHDANCER makes this happen. If you set to normal, it will act as a normally set machine would.
No.06816 wuemura Viewer Oct 26, 2010, 15:39 edited on: Oct 26, 2010, 15:52	The settings are the mame default, no changes was made in any switch, also I've deleted all game related .nv / .cfg files before redoing the test that end at the same result. I've made a few videos. shdancer.mp4 - default settings, problem happens. shdancer1.mp4 - default settings, no problems shdancer_hard.mp4 - hard settings, the character die a bit latter. PS: How the real board act when you changes the difficult settings?
No.06817 Tafoid Administrator Oct 26, 2010, 16:33	Not sure where your problem is coming from, but changing the dip to HARDEST in any set, your player will die as your first picture shows, before the dog is even sent at the target. Setting difficulty HARD, for all sets, the player dies shortly after the dog starts attacking the lead enemy. I personally verified this with both the MAMEDEV 0.140 32 and 64 bit builds. (XP and Win 7). It's a pretty clear indication that the difficulty switch effects the demonstration mode and it's expected behavior. For another reported example of this, look at 02100. Please note, the dips for shdancbl are incorrect and you need to change: "Coin Mode" to "Individual" for HARDEST. Add a change to "PLAY MODE" to "2 Players" to mimic the HARD difficulty on this set. I'll be working on sorting these out for shdancbl today.
No.06822 Tafoid Administrator Oct 28, 2010, 04:11	I need you to open the DIP menu and change the Difficulty to "NORMAL" or "EASY" on the shdancer set - exit the emulation, restart MAME and see if this fast death still occurs. Please hurry, I'm ready to close this bug out.
No.06823 abelardator2 Tester Oct 28, 2010, 09:06	I am waiting to receive an original set, I can check....
No.06830 wuemura Viewer Oct 30, 2010, 06:41 edited on: Oct 30, 2010, 06:44	Tafoid, I've done the exact way you ask me to, and it happens the exact same way, in NORMAL it happens as the previous video show, and in EASY it happens the same way. And to be absolutely sure, this is a copy of the shdancer.cfg to confirm that the settings are set to EASY. <?xml version="1.0"?> <!-- This file is autogenerated; comments and unknown tags will be stripped --> <mameconfig version="10"> <system name="shdancer"> <input> <port tag="DSW" type="DIPSWITCH" mask="48" defvalue="48" value="32" /> </input> </system> </mameconfig> I did try to record the video with the dip menu to show that is set to EASY but it didn't record the menu, in any case I will post the video with the DIP set to EASY. PS: abelardator2, any test in the real PCB can help. Thank you.
No.06831 abelardator2 Tester Oct 30, 2010, 14:07	I not received the pcb, I hope to have soon...
No.06878 abelardator2 Tester Nov 22, 2010, 20:22	Today I have received the original board of SEGA is a US version REV.B, I checked by changing the DIP and the result is the same as MAME, in easy the player dies before. The emulation is correct.....