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ID Category [?] Severity [?] Reproducibility Date Submitted Last Update
04952 Gameplay Major Always Jul 17, 2012, 11:32 Jan 21, 2019, 15:50
Tester Scagazza View Status Public Platform MAME (Self-compiled)
Assigned To Resolution Open OS Windows Vista/7 (64-bit)
Status [?] Acknowledged Driver midvunit.cpp
Version 0.146u3 Fixed in Version Build 64-bit
Summary 04952: crusnwld: [possible] No manual transmission
Description In the recently added Crus'n World Rev L2.5 there is no screen for choosing transmission between manual and auto, it is always set to auto.
It's a completely different behaviour from Rev L2.4, is that correct?
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Affected Sets / Systems crusnwld
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jpg file icon cruisnworld -no shifter (1).jpg (12,049 bytes) Jan 18, 2019, 13:07 Uploaded by MetalGod
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jpg file icon cruisnworld -no shifter (2).jpg (55,881 bytes) Jan 18, 2019, 13:07 Uploaded by MetalGod
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jpg file icon cruisnworld -no shifter (3).jpg (27,243 bytes) Jan 18, 2019, 13:07 Uploaded by MetalGod
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jpg file icon hyperdrive to california speed.jpg (166,351 bytes) Jan 21, 2019, 15:31 Uploaded by MetalGod
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jpg file icon cruis.jpg (89,869 bytes) Jan 21, 2019, 15:50 Uploaded by MetalGod
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No.08811
Tafoid
Administrator
Jul 17, 2012, 16:48
I'd say it's more possible that this latest revision might be an upright cabinet without a shifter or clutch.. I don't believe there is protection that would eliminate that selection screen. Confirmed pending verification from actual cab, if possible.
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No.08819
NekoEd
Senior Tester
Jul 19, 2012, 02:58
Shouldn't this be flagged Acknolwedged while pending verification, Tafoid?
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No.08820
Haze
Senior Tester
Jul 19, 2012, 20:46
edited on: Jul 19, 2012, 20:48
It's a much more recent version than 2.4

the shifter stuff is missing in the test menus too (the only trace of it is in the audit screen where it has automatic / manual selection counts)

the game is either upright or cocktail based on a dipswtich, so I don't think that's it.. looks more like they intentionally disabled it in this revision for whatever reason, maybe there was a problem with it, so they offered this revision as a very late 'fix' by simply turning it off? Of note there is a graphical issue reported in manual mode here on MT, maybe that actually occured on real hardware sometimes too?
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No.08821
NekoEd
Senior Tester
Jul 20, 2012, 18:49
I'm changing this to Ack'd; it's a more appropriate status than Conf'd for this particular issue, which is going to need some further research.
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No.16045
MetalGod
Senior Tester
Jan 18, 2019, 13:15
edited on: Jan 19, 2019, 23:21
Some Cruis'n World cabs were converted from Hyperdrive cabs, so they didn't have the shifter.
It seems Hyperdrive was a failure and Midway offered a conversion kit to change the cab to Cruis'n'World. For that purpose they had to alter the game itselft, removing the manual transmission option within the game. That's Rev L2.5 version, the actual parent set in mame.
There's a thread here:
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=367081
I've uploaded the photographs of the article in this ticket.

More clues here:
https://rec.games.video.arcade.collecting.narkive.com/aFLsM9H1/tech-help-trouble-shooting-cruis-n-world
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No.16046
Hydreigon
Tester
Jan 18, 2019, 15:12
(Thanks for beating me to this Metalgod). Dedicated Hyperdrive cabinets had no manual stick built in. California Speed was another game that could be given away (Midway like gave both game kits away for little to no price) to put into a Hyperdrive too. I may have a feeling 00975 may function the same as a Hyperdrive kitted California Speed with no manual stick due to its game coding. A config to make California speed disable the manual transition in Mame would be interesting.

As for Cruis'n World, is it okay keeping a version intended for a kit as the parent set?
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No.16059
NekoEd
Senior Tester
Jan 21, 2019, 06:39
Are we certain that Rev L2.5 is kit-only? If we can confirm that, we can close this BTANB.
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No.16064
Hydreigon
Tester
Jan 21, 2019, 15:28
Definitely kit only (BTANB). Furthermore, this link Metalgod sent mentioned an undumped L2.6 kit version. I'm pretty sure this version was only for balancing and fixes as this still disables the manual transmission. I'll have to keep on the lookout of this version one day.
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No.16065
MetalGod
Senior Tester
Jan 21, 2019, 15:30
They also made a conversion kit from Hyperdrive to California Speed. It is dated in november 1998, same date as the L2.5 version of Cruis'n World.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ARCADE-MANUAL-HYPERDRIVE-TO-CALIFORNIA-SPEED/173129226067?hash=item284f4e5753:g:i74AAOSwubFacAu3:rk:4:pf:0&autorefresh=true

I've uploaded the image of the manual.
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No.16066
MetalGod
Senior Tester
Jan 21, 2019, 15:49
edited on: Jan 21, 2019, 15:59
More evidence of Hyperdrive-to-Cruis'n World conversion kit here:
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=120247
I've uploaded the cabinet photo in this ticket

BTANB and Cruis'n World parent should be L2.4 instead of L2.5