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ID | Category [?] | Severity [?] | Reproducibility | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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08866 | Sound | Minor | Have not tried | Jun 3, 2024, 00:13 | Jun 9, 2024, 00:30 |
Tester | yoshi200213 | View Status | Public | Platform | MAME (Official Binary) |
Assigned To | Resolution | Invalid report | OS | Windows 10/11 (64-bit) | |
Status [?] | Closed | Driver | |||
Version | 0.266 | Fixed in Version | Build | 64-bit | |
Fixed in Git Commit | Github Pull Request # | ||||
Summary | 08866: Most sets on taito_f3.cpp: taito f3 system sound has echo effect | ||||
Description |
Hello all Games of taito f3 system has an echo effect this doesn't happen in real hardware or final burn neo please remove the echo effect |
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Steps To Reproduce |
1. start any game 2. listen to the music |
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Affected Sets / Systems | Most sets on taito_f3.cpp | ||||
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![]() No.22149
hap Developer
Jun 3, 2024, 09:59
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The echo/reverb effects are by this DSP: https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/src/devices/cpu/es5510/es5510.cpp Emulation is not 100% perfect, so I expect it will sound a bit different compared to the arcade machines. Comparing it to FBN is not right, AFAIK it does not emulate this chip. And if it did, it would be copy-pasted from MAME and sound very similar. |
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![]() No.22151
yoshi200213 Tester
Jun 3, 2024, 21:19
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in final burn neo it not sounds similar. the reverp effect is not present |
![]() No.22153
hap Developer
Jun 3, 2024, 22:37
edited on: Jun 3, 2024, 22:40 |
Like I said, FBN does not emulate this ES5510 chip. The 2nd part of my message was hypothetical, maybe lost in translation or misread? |
![]() No.22160
Robbbert Senior Tester
Jun 5, 2024, 07:58
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Comparing to another emulator is not valid, since it could be wrong too. You need to provide proof of real hardware. |
![]() No.22169
yoshi200213 Tester
Jun 5, 2024, 15:17
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please fix the es5510 emulation |
![]() No.22170
yoshi200213 Tester
Jun 5, 2024, 21:49
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In real hardware and the soundtracks there's no reverb effect |
![]() No.22171
yoshi200213 Tester
Jun 5, 2024, 21:50
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Here's and example with kaiser knuckle https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/global-champion-arcade |
![]() No.22172
12Me21 Tester
Jun 6, 2024, 02:03
edited on: Jun 6, 2024, 02:08 |
the provenance of that recording is questionable; it could have been recorded from an old version of mame which didn't emulate the ES5510 your example: https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/global-champion-arcade/05_Capricious%2520Valkyrie%2520%255BTheme%2520from%2520Liza%255D.mp3 official soundtrack: hardware recording: |
![]() No.22175
yoshi200213 Tester
Jun 6, 2024, 15:26
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in taito egret ii mini the music of kaiser knuckle is more correct than mame |
![]() No.22176
ICEknight Tester
Jun 6, 2024, 18:11
edited on: Jun 6, 2024, 18:13 |
Can you post footage of the real arcade game so that we can judge which one's actually more correct? |
![]() No.22177
yoshi200213 Tester
Jun 6, 2024, 23:25
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![]() No.22178
yoshi200213 Tester
Jun 6, 2024, 23:28
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Please fix the problem in the next version of mame |
![]() No.22180
hap Developer
Jun 7, 2024, 07:22
edited on: Jun 7, 2024, 07:26 |
He meant actual arcade hardware footage. Taito Egret II mini is emulation. And 12Me21 already posted a video of arcade hardware. Also, on very severe bugs I won't mind a "please fix" comment, but 1: IMO this is not a severe bug, and 2: you posted a 'fix request' comment twice now, please don't do that again. |
![]() No.22187
Fujix Administrator
Jun 9, 2024, 00:30
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He is just repeating "FIX THE PROBLEM", we can't expect constructive response any more. Closing. |