09427: phoenixt, phoenixj: Both sets use different music and effects

ID	Category [?]	Severity [?]	Reproducibility	Date Submitted	Last Update
09427	Sound	Trivial	Always	20 days ago	1 day ago

Tester	Fortuna	View Status	Public	Platform	MAME (Official Binary)
Assigned To		Resolution	Open	OS	Windows (x64)
Status [?]	Acknowledged			Driver	phoenix/phoenix.cpp
Version	0.287	Fixed in Version		Build	x64
		Fixed in Git Commit		Github Pull Request #

Summary	09427: phoenixt, phoenixj: Both sets use different music and effects
Description	This is verified on multiple sources and too in compilation Taito memories II Gekan Both sets has a different songs compared with others sets like the amstar version Is probable has an different sound rom Other detail, if use this set in pleiads (all compatible sets), the game has different sound fonts
Steps To Reproduce
Additional Information	Add the main theme Too the rom has more sfx on it
Github Commit

Flags	Verified with Original
Regression Version
Affected Sets / Systems	phoenixt, phoenixj

Attached Files	PHOENIXSE17.mp3 (354,581 bytes) 20 days ago Uploaded by Fortuna

No.24298 hap Developer 19 days ago	For these retro rereleases that appear to have a different version, it's important to find PCB references too. Taito may have modified the music due to licensing issues. Here's one of those? The sound effects are the same, but music is different. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/R-AVBQgNb68 I assume it's an Epson music chip (like Pleiads)
No.24302 125scratch Tester 16 days ago	I highly doubt that music was ever used on an original Phoenix board, it was probably replaced for the collection.
No.24309 Robbbert Moderator 12 days ago	I'm not convinced there's an issue here, but it's acknowledged. I assume that the makers got whatever epson chime chip happened to be available at the time, so there could be various ones in use.
No.24340 Fortuna Tester 4 days ago	Is probable that version has a different sound roms with dip switch configuration (is a possible)
No.24341 Haze Senior Tester 4 days ago	These games (and others) use a dedicated off-the-shelf music chip for their music. They would have been purchased in bulk. The same chips were used as all-in-1 solutions for things like christmas lights and doorbells. If you put a different one on the PCB it will play different music. If you repair a PCB with the wrong chip you'll also get different music. The music wasn't composed by the developer of the game, so for a rerelease of the game it's entirely possible they decided they didn't own the copyright and had to swap it out.
No.24345 Fortuna Tester 1 day ago	Can be probable of this version, remember find messages in old sites of various Phoenix with different song (like an russian song) and too different sound system, like the epson chip The sound rom has many effects, sounds and 4 themes, if the use in Pleiads, some sounds and effects change, too the epson chip can be a very chance of many effects are used for that chip Old mame versions has effects different, inside the rom this sounds exists too (an possible multi prupose sound rom maybe?)